Never get a band tattoo, for real

[killie]

it's difficult processing these allegations against Orri, no?

New details out today that r incredibly gross to read. I personally am rocked disturbingly hard by this, I know that even the sweetest peaches and cream can go foul but this band had a stupid purity for me.

[killie]

Some of my closest greatest friends, I've met here. Right here in the srmb.
I travelled to Iceland for Airwaves and stayed for the revolution in 2008 because of this band.
I've seen them live more than any other band in my life, I caught a broken bow and I still have it to this day.I Igot a stupid Takk... tattoo and its still the only band tattoo I have.
I got it because I never ever thought that Sigur Ros could become abhorrent.
I stopped listening a long time ago but this shit, and not just Orri there is a dead silence from the entire camp, this shit is fucked up.
Jonsi preforming tonite is FUCKED UP.

Brockhampton handled the sexual allegations against Ameer better, can u believe it? Brock. Hampton.
Let that sink in.

[MarmFi]

Jonsi preforming tonite is FUCKED UP.

Why? There's no question he did anything wrong. Nobody's accused him of anything. People can't be made to feel guilt through association, or to put their own lives and careers on hold due to the (alleged) behaviour of others.

And what can the others say? Publicly support their former colleague? Publicly condemn him? Neither would be appropriate at this stage.

Oh, and with no intention of casting any aspersions on anyone's guilt or innocence, if people think that musicians are likely to be good people (or 'pure', whatever that means) just because they make nice music, then that's extremely naive.

[Pie1862]

So what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

[killie]

yikes my dude

[Takk]

The purity is in the music, not necessarily in their personal lives. They are all humans, just like you and I.

Orri has been the wildcard of the bunch all along. Remember a few years back when he got into a bar fight? I'm not saying that he's guilty or not guilty, but just that he's human.

Jonsi performing isn't "FUCKED UP". He and Georg are both incredible artists that deserve to continue on and be successful. They have all kinds of side projects that Orri was never involved in. This band has done a lot of good, not just for listeners but also for humanitarian efforts. Even Orri was involved in those efforts. It's possible for somebody to do good, but also do harm.

Even if Orri is guilty, he didn't do those actions in the name of Sigur Ros. He would've done them as an individual who made poor choices, in spite of being in an incredible band. He left the band to keep from dragging them through the mud since the other members aren't involved, so stop dragging them through the mud.

[gdd]

I have looked thoughtfully at my Viðrar tattoo many times since the allegations surfaced, and I realized that its meaning to me and the place of that song and that quote and the spirit behind that quote in my life have not changed. It sucks when your heroes fall and I felt stabbed in the heart as I'm sure many others here did. But that music lives on, it is timeless, our experiences of seeing them and the ways they've changed our lives are a part of our life forever on. Even if I was to move on from SR as a band because of something like this, the place that song had in my life when I got that tattoo will always be a part of me. I wouldn't change it for anything.

[Seq225]

This reminds me of a song from long ago. (lyrics below)
And people need to remember a band like this is a business. A business with contracts that have penalties if broken.
Lots of money involved and other peoples jobs/income are also involved.
The idea that all that is supposed to stop suddenly for ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE because some woman posted a story on twitter about one of them (true or not) is kind of insane to me.

And this idea that people feel they have such a personal connection to these people in such personal way, to feel they know that they are just "stupid pure" without even knowing them? I mean who is actually "pure" anyway? Kind of unfair to put that on anyone you don't really know. To feel this way all because they made some great art, and you may have met them once or 3 times? To then be personally devastated when they F up as humans, well, that's kind of insane to me too.
Im sure many will disagree here, its just my opinion...but this reminds me of a song I loved by another fantastic band...

Lush - "Heavenly Nobodies"

"Just because they seem to understand the way you feel
It doesn't mean they'll feel the same way too
Just because they seem to hold a mirror to your life
It doesn't follow that they'll be just like you
Take no heroes,
Its no good
They don't stand up to you
Just take the bit you that you can use
I remember when I was younger
I thought the answers were locked in people
So I admired the ones whose lives were a source of envy to people like me

But do you really want to meet
The ones who write your dreams
Believe me, it's a fantasy
You won't like the reality

If you want heroes keep them safe
They don't stand up to life
So lock them in your soul and lose the key

When I see you it makes me feel
There's someone else out there like me
You touch my soul with what you do
It all makes sense when I hear you
You understand the way I feel
I know exactly what you mean
It's like I've known you all my life
I think of you I feel alright

But in the flesh how would it be
If you could really see
The weaknesses you never knew
Alive and staring back at you

If you want to heroes keep them safe
They don't stand up to life
So lock them in your soul and lose the key"

[Pie1862]

Well I'm still considering getting my brackets tattoo. No amount of accusations, rumour, side taking or anything else will stop this being one of my favourite albums of all time.

[rwdelos5517]

I’ve had ( ) tattooed on my forearm for over 15 years, and not once have I thought of any of the band members when looking at it. I think about the music, what it’s meant, and what it will continue to mean to me.

This hits all of us, especially those of us who’ve been here for almost 2 decades now, very hard. But there’s absolutely no justification in condemning the 2 members that have absolutely nothing to do with this mess, for continuing to live their lives.

[MarmFi]

Well I'm still considering getting my brackets tattoo.

Which cheeks?

[Pie1862]

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[Seq225]

Trent Reznor (I am a big NIN fan) gave a good interview in the past year or so where he spoke of bands in the days of social media compared to before. Tool always had the same mindset as well. Not interested in putting pictures of themselves on albums, reluctantly doing interviews, being more cryptic than open.
Letting the art speak for itself.
These days its too easy to know what your favorite artist had for breakfast, and what TV shows he/she likes, what he thinks about a MAGA hat...and it all plays into the equation, which does the art a disservice.
TR spoke about artists like David Bowie, Kiss, who were more mysterious superheroes to him, than actual flawed humans...and how great that was...back in the late 70s,80s when ALL you had was the album cover and the music. You had to fill in the rest and it could be whatever you wanted.

Its not to say that a persons character isn't going to affect how you may see their art, but, well, we heard one side of a story, from someone we don't know, on twitter. Hardly something the OTHER two members should have to shut their whole careers down for. Is this really the age we are living in now?